Archangel Michael – What Would Love Do? – Hour With An Angel – Channel Linda Dillon – Host Steve Beckow – 5-6-14

 

 

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Host Steve Beckow   –   Hour With An Angel

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Archangel Michael: Greetings, I am Michael…

SB: Greetings, Lord.

AAM: Archangel of peace, warrior of love, bringer of news. And might I also suggest, my beloved friends, that you take out your sword [rather than garden shears!]. And it is the sword that I have gifted you eons ago, and it is unique to you.

It is your sword of freedom. And yes, cut away the cords, cut away what does not serve you and ignite the blue flame of truth, of peace. Because not only is that what you desire and yearn for, my beloved friends. It is your birthright. It is the core of who you are.

And even though you are not all of the blue ray, that does not mean in any way, shape or form that I do not share this blue flame equally and freely. So, light up, dear hearts. It takes on an entirely new meaning. And yes, I bring you love and peace directly from the heart of the Divine Mother, this day and every day.

So welcome.

SB: Thank you, Lord.

AAM: And welcome back, dear Steve.

SB: Thank you. I had a good rest.

AAM: Where do you wish to start this day?

SB: Well, what I wanted to talk about, Lord, as we come together to build Nova Earth with the Company of Heaven, is that different people are bringing different gifts and have different roles to play.

Some are psychic, some are intuitive, some will play a role in gifting, some are Earth-keepers. Oftentimes when people with different backgrounds come together, there’s a pull, a push, an attempt to make everybody the same.

Can you discuss this work of co-creation with us that we’ll be doing? How to work with our different gifts and roles, please?

AAM: I would be pleased to address this subject. And I would preface my remarks by saying, why on Earth ― or Arcturus, or Andromeda, or Sirius ― why would you ever want to be the same? It defeats the purpose.

For you bring the uniqueness of your being, not only how you have emanated and birthed directly from the heart of the Mother/Father One, but again how you have birthed and rebirthed, through many lifetimes, many experiences, into this incarnation, with variations, but with unique qualities, attributes, egos, personalities, physical qualities.

One of the most magnificent beauties of Gaia, and of humanity, is that you are so unique and diverse. And if you ever had any question or query or doubt about that, all you would need to do is to look to the environment that you were born into, to look to the geophysical creation of Gaia herself and the diversity of the planet.

But I do not wish to digress from this. But I also wish to say, as a starting point ― and yes, I know I have said this before, but I cannot remind you often enough ― for this incarnation, you have already anchored in the last several years ― and some of you for decades; some of you since inception ― the fullness of your soul design.

You have anchored your divine patterning of who you are, the totality of who you are. And in that anchoring you are bringing forth and anchoring as well your talents, your abilities, your capacities, known and still somewhat unknown, because they are still unfolding as you are unfolding, as you are discovering your ascended, multidimensional, Earth-timeline self. And you are incredibly different from one another, in your talents, in your preferences, in your choices, in your points of view. And that is exactly part of the plan.

We did not wish, the Mother did not plan, to simply have a race of identical twins. Otherwise, that is what she would have brought forth. The diversity, the differences, the clarity, the appreciation of those differences are vital to the progress, evolution, Ascension, jump, shift, whatever you call it, of the collective humanity and to each individual.

And it is not merely appreciating your own sweet self, loving your own sweet self. It is also coming to that place, not merely of accepting and allowing, but deep appreciation, love, celebration, not only of the points of conjunction but of the differences.

Now, this is something that your star brothers and sisters, who hover very close at hand, have become highly attuned to long ago. There is no requirement to mirror, to agree, to all be in what you think of as marching lock-step together.

The key to forming community, and to forming Nova Earth in the true sense of unity, is not merely agreeing and all following the same pattern. Quite the contrary, it is also coming together with the differentiation of talents, of beliefs, of understandings, of experiences and then joining to form the harmony.

No one person, being, above or below, by the way, is intended to do everything. And when that situation occurs, and human situations in groups large or small, what you see is someone who is a control maniac, someone whose ego thinks that they can do it better, or that they need to do it all or it won’t be done sufficiently effectively or beautifully. And of course that is not so. It is a mosaic. (1) And as a Canadian, dear heart, you understand …

SB: Yes.

AAM: … the meaning of that mosaic.

SB: Yes, I do.

AAM: You come together to complement and to work cooperatively. And sometimes what that means is you are all taking a giant step back and observing and being discerning and perceptive, because there are personalities, there are feelings, there are histories, there are past lives and bleed-throughs, there are opinions.

But it takes a giant step backwards to perceive and discern how that mix is coming together so that the mosaic pieces aren’t butting up against one another, and how they can be placed in position to complement and to create.

But it is the learning, in small groups and then in very large groups, how to work cooperatively, and how to deal with conflict, with confrontation, with differences of opinion, with groups three to one, a thousand to one, and not how to override the one, but how to complement each other.

You see this. You see this in families all the time. And you can see where it has worked, where families have worked out of love to reach that accommodation where each individual is free to express and to be the fullness of who they are rather than being in lock-step. And you see it in families where abuse occurs or where personalities are shriveled up and die, or where people are afraid to speak their mind or their heart.

So where is humanity? Where is my beloved legion and collective at this time? You are in the beginning of the tsunami of love. Does that mean that every other lesson is going out the window? No. You are learning these lessons ― of deep cooperation, of discernment, of honoring yourself and each other, of loyalty, to yourself, to your path, to your service, and to each other. You are learning not to turn your head away.

That is why I have mentioned my sword to start with, but also do not forget your shield.

Too often, on this planet, with the growth and the anchoring of what we have come to call the old third, when conflict ― and we are speaking serious conflict ― has arisen, often the human response has been to either engage in violence, which solves nothing, or to run away.

And neither is a solution to creating Nova Earth, to creating what the Mother has always envisioned for Gaia and what Gaia herself has envisioned as her path. Yes, there are times when Gaia has cleansed or shrugged or washed her face off, but by and large look at how Gaia has dealt with conflict and her patience and the healing that she has sent.

What you are learning, my beloved friends, my family, is how to extend yourself in love. The Mother has said, oh, months ago, even on this show, but she has said repeatedly, if it does not feel like love, why do it?

I want you to add a second question, and it is a question that all of you already know. And that is, what would love do? The channel has spoken of feeling the wave. And when you feel that place, it is already in your heart.

When you ask the question, if I come from love, which is the core essence of who I am, if I step back and set aside what appears to be conflict, confrontation, hurt feelings, hurt ego, differences of opinion, and simply ask what would love do, and proceed from there, it does not entail violence of any description, especially to one’s self. And feeling poorly about oneself is violence to oneself, make no mistake about it. And it does not entail running away.

Now, be very clear. I do not call detachment running away. The channel has spoken of spending the night, actually, many nights, in the Holocaust situation of World War Two in Germany and Austria. What happened? Did so many human beings close their eyes, turn their heads in denial and run away? They felt that the choice was either to run away or to engage in violence.

That is a situation where you had someone [Hitler] very ill, diseased, shall we say leading the troops. The danger of fanaticism at its height. But you cannot, as an enlightened species who have had your own inter-galactic form of war, whether you are looking at the Holocaust or the pogroms or the Sudan or Syria, you cannot turn your head. It is not what love does.

So what is occurring is you are being given many microcosms, situations, of practice so that issues are coming to the forefront. You are questioning your own worth and your core issues, which is good. It has need to be done, because they are coming up so they are right there to be loosened and washed away.

So your question: How do we work together? One of the first rules when you are in this transition phase has been to learn to speak Perro. And we have talked of Perro before, and it is what you would also call non-violent communication. It is to speak frankly, but not emotionally. Communicate the facts, and including the facts of how you feel, and including the facts of who you are ― your talents, your abilities, your dreams, your desires, what you wish to create within the microcosm or the macrocosm. Start talking and never stop ― telepathically, body language, touching, eye contact. It is time, my beloved ones.

We have called you the creator race, but we should also be calling you the communicator race, because that is where you are and that is where you are headed. If you do not communicate heart to heart, there is no forward progress. Period.

SB: Thank you for that, Lord. Probably the first thing that suffers when we experience challenging situations is the bliss that we feel. You’ve talked about the love that we feel. How do we remain in the bliss above and beyond what you’ve said? You’ve talked about Perro and things like that.

But individually, within ourselves, how do we stay in the bliss when we face matters that challenge us?

AAM: You connect with us. And I do not say this in a facile way. Each of you is surrounded not only by your guides buy by legions at this time. Now, let me share something with you that we haven’t really spoken of before.

We talk a great deal about the core issues of humanity being self-worth and breaking through that separation and isolation and feeling of abandonment and loneliness to knowing that you are divine, you are worthy, you are loved, and you are the essence of love.
The anchoring factor of your capacity ― and I do not mean individually; and of course it fluctuates; but I’m speaking of the collective ― your capacity for acknowledging and holding and being in your worth and in the fullness of your love is about 30 percent.

Now, considering the advances you have made with that low percentage, you are doing phenomenally ― what you have broken through with just that ― but think about it! ― 30 percent. No wonder you are saying to me, “Michael, how do I hang on to the bliss?”

So you are always asking, “What is the Company of Heaven doing to help?” Well, here is a very practical thing that we can do. When you are in these trying situations, this is when the cords work. Attach to us. Let us attach to you. Let us fill you, reassure you, love you. Let us fill you and your field with the love so that you can keep the absolute focus on feeling loved, lovable, worthy, and remain in that behavior and communication of what would love do.

Because the first response of what would love do is to yourself: I am in this situation, and it can be in the White House, it can be in the Ukraine, it can be in the Kremlin, or it can be in the gutters of New York City. What does love do? The first response is to love yourself, because without that first response you can’t go anywhere. You will run out of fuel before you get anywhere.

So the first thing you do to hold on to the bliss is look in the mirror and say, “Lord, let me see who I really am.” And let us flood you. And this will be easier and easier with the tsunami. Full impact has not even been close to being felt yet. But let us flood you, not just your toes or your ankles, your entire being. Just make an agreement with me right now, all of you, that you will let the love for you in. And from there you will proceed.

And when I speak of love, I am not merely speaking esoterically, spiritually; I am not merely speaking of feeling calm, serene, peaceful (which is my favorite); feeling that you are in alignment. I am talking about feeling loved, valued, cherished, honored, revered, adored, because you are. It’s time to up this ante significantly right now.

SB: Lord, maybe I can share an experience that I had not so long ago in this regard, because it sounds pertinent to what you’re saying.

I was experiencing existential loneliness, and it was really a fierce kind of feeling. I didn’t enjoy it at all and didn’t know what to do about it. And suddenly I remembered the tsunami, and I remembered what you had been saying about “send the love outwards,” and I actually brought the love up from inside me and sent it outwards, and it got rid of the loneliness in a fraction of a second. It was quite dramatic!

AAM: Exactly. So many of you are also waiting for the tsunami to approach, but also knowing the magnet, the existence of who you are is love. And as soon as you begin to share it, it flows. And it does for us as well. As soon as you ask ― and we can share it ― it flows.

SB: What are we doing that’s working, Lord, and what are we doing that’s not working?

AAM: I would rather focus, to start, on what you are doing that’s working.

SB: Okay.

AAM: And we have touched on this in this conversation, have we not, dear hearts? Because you have begun these communications, and you have begun this new form of not turning away, not running away, not ending in violence, but truly attempting and communicating.

Are you perfecting it? Yes, you are. Now this has need to spread out in a more global manner, but it doesn’t start at the top. All of what we have spoken of in your terminology would be grass roots. The shift, ascension, the change ― Nova Earth ― comes from the people. It does not come from your outdated bureaucracies of finance or social or government. It comes from you, from your hearts, from your fierce demand for independence and freedom.

You can think of the love as the Occupy Movement. We want to occupy your heart. And you are doing that, and more and more. It has not been a conscious snap. But what you are doing right ― and I speak to all of you, and to your star brothers and sisters as well, who are always listening in ― you are shifting to the place of balance, where you are in your heart consciousness.

You are not denying the brilliance of your mind. You are not ignoring your delightful personalities or egos. But you have shifted incredibly to your heart. There is collective understanding.

Oh, there are some recalcitrants, but I am speaking of what you are doing right, one by one by one, group by group. There is a firm acknowledgment that which, in terms of the very structures I just referred to, that do not work, does not reflect the divine qualities ― kindness, gentleness, generosity ― that hurt people; that very often the systems that have been created supposedly to help people are the very systems that hurt people.

And there is this growing intellectual and heart consciousness understanding that change is a must. And that is being translated into a shift of what is occurring.

Is it happening rapidly enough for you or for us? Well, in fact not for you, but from our perspective, because we see behind the scenes, it is happening more rapidly than you can see or than you anticipate.

Your hearts are becoming more generous. Your clarity is becoming more highly honed, and yes it is because of the gift of the Mother. But it is also because you are implementing and using the gift of the Mother’s clarity. You are seeing through situations to the heart of the matter.

You aren’t being distracted or fooled so easily. And you aren’t just seeing to the heart of the problem. You are also seeing to the heart of many global solutions. And you aren’t hesitating to declare yourselves as global citizens willing to tackle global issues, collectively, and as committed individuals.

You aren’t denying your talents, and you aren’t single-streaming yourselves. You aren’t saying, well, I am an accountant, I am a numbers person, and therefore I only deal with numbers or figures or constructs. You are recognizing that you are a numbers person who deals in universal language, and you are also an artist, and that your creativity is unlimited.

You are accepting the malleability of inter-dimensionality. You are accepting magic and that miracles are simply things you do not have full explanation or understanding of. You are becoming more flexible. And you are becoming, from our perspective, more expressive.

Now we are hearing, and we have always heard, the cries of despair and of your heart. But what we are hearing and witnessing is also the expression, the verbal, out-loud, expression of distress, of oppression, of despair, of loneliness.

And you say, “Well, Lord, why would you put that in the category of what we are doing right?” Because you are allowing it to escape your body and, in the very expression, you are saying, “I’m lonely. I am disheartened. I want help. And I look above and I look to my brothers and sisters of Gaia for help,” and that you trust that they actually can, and will, and do help you.

So you are doing all of these things right. But I know that you have these different shows. So now we will have the Michael Show, number one: you are walking in trust and faith. There is no denying it as you have so vigorously ― and I mean all of you ― pointed out to me, is “Where is the proof? Where is the evidence? Where are the temporal disclosures?”

What you are doing right, where you have been absolutely stellar, is in your trust, in your faith, in your holding of hope. Are there moments where you waffle? Yes. But the collective energy is moderating that waffling. The collective energy is supporting the individual who is feeling shaky.

You are coming together on our side, we trust, because we know. So you say, “Well, Michael, it’s very easy to trust when you know.” We know, but we do not always know the fine detail, because of, in your case, this wonderful element of free will. But we do know the outcome.

Now, you do not. You know that you are creating, and that you are purging, and you know that you are moving forward. But this walk of faith, of trust, is a shining example throughout the galaxies. Often we have spoken to you about how you are the first to go through this process. And I think we would all agree that in this variable process of Ascension in form into various higher realms and dimensions, one of the biggest elements in that has been the trust.

Now where are you going wrong? What could you do better? Stop hesitating. Stop doubting. You have actually been very good about the elimination of many core false grids, false paradigms, illusions, beliefs. And that is why we say the human collective is coming to a place where they are collectively saying, “What we have had doesn’t work. We are creating the new. We may not know all the details, but we do know what doesn’t work.”

Stop hesitating. Step forward. Do not question, and question and dither about your actions. Trust yourself. And do not think ― and I say think because it is more a mental process than an emotional or spiritual process ― do not over-think your situation. There are many things that we have been talking about for many years now, and with you for over two, where there would be naysayers who would say, “Don’t be ridiculous. Logically, this cannot occur.

That cannot happen.” They are over-thinking it. And they do not know what is or is not possible, and they do not know what can or cannot be created, particularly in partnership.

Now, this issue of partnership is something that we have addressed time and again. The time has passed where there is such a wide gulf, shall we say, between the Company of Heaven and Gaia and the human collective.

When we say we are in partnership and co-creating, you are learning, we are adjusting, you are adjusting. If there was anything that we would ask you to do more of, it would be to engage, as if we are right there in physical form with you in this partnership. Take me to work. Take me out to eat. I might even pay the bill.

Is that clear, dear heart?

SB: Very much so. And I had a number of other questions that I wanted to ask you, but I think I’ll jump to the last question just simply to be able to get it in. And this is a question in the public arena now, Lord. President Obama continues to receive a lot of criticism. And there’s even a suggestion that an interim President of the United States has been chosen.

Can you talk to us about how President Obama’s performing and what’s ahead for him as we move further into the golden age and through what seems like continuing chaos?

AAM: He is managing chaos. And he is not always surrounded, although I must tell you, we are constantly in the White House. That is one of my primary roles. And many of you, my beloved friends, are there with me. Now, there is no interim President. That simply will not happen.

SB: And yet it’s been talked about as if it has happened.

AAM: No. That is false. That is another move to discredit what he wants to achieve.

SB: Hmm.

AAM: So, the more that he can be said to be losing power, the more what he wishes to bring forth can be dismissed. But you will see some very strong action out of this President before the term is over.

He does not wish to engage in war. He is there despite everything that has occurred. One of his purposes was to bring peace. Now, you see how the situations… oh, well, just even of the last hundred years have all come to the forefront in terms of the war chaos. It is there to be cleared, not to be engaged in.

SB: Well, in the few minutes that remain, Lord, maybe I could ask you this question, too, about the public arena. SaLuSa used to say some years ago that there were divine deadlines, and once a divine deadline had been passed, the free will of the cabal, for example, could be overruled. But we seem to be observing their free will quite a bit. Is SaLuSa’s notion correct, or what are we missing here?

AAM: There are divine deadlines. But you have a tendency to think of deadlines as lines in the sand. The Mother does not always see deadlines in the same way. For example, we have had a couple of deadlines that have come and gone because of the desire to allow the human free will collective to get where they wish to go.

Now, the cabal is not black or white. It is very gray. And might I suggest to you that the gray is fading daily. That is how deadlines are met. And by the time they are reached, there is no darkness. So they are already being penetrated.

SB: And containment, Lord. Has containment altered people’s behavior, or are they still being worked on?

AAM: Containment is still in force, and yes, there are many that are being worked on.

We will be happy to continue this conversation.

SB: All right. Thank you, Lord.

AAM: Go in peace.

SB: Thank you very much.

AAM: Farewell.

SB: Farewell.

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Jesus Sananda About Relationships – An Hour with an Angel – Transcription – Channel Linda Dillon – Host Steve Beckow

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Ellen has again rushed us a transcript of last night’s Hour with an Angel, in which Jesus shared about his lost years.

In this interview, Jesus has shared that he he was “in-filled” by the Holy Ghost at age 5 or 5 1/2 and that his baptism by John with the descent of the dove was symbolic.

He discussed his travels around the spiritual circuit of his days, his marriage to Mary Magdalene, and his daughter Sarah and the fact that she is what is referred to by the term “holy grail.” He made many more revelations in this interview. Next week he returns to continue the story.

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An Hour with an Angel, January 9, 2012

Graham Dewyea: Hello, and welcome to An Hour with an Angel, a weekly radio program with channeler Linda Dillon, the channel for the Council of Love, along with Steve Beckow, editor of the 2012 Scenario.

Tonight Linda will channel Jesus and Steve will ask him questions. So without further ado, I’ll pass it on to you, Steve.

Steve Beckow: Thank you, Graham. And thank you, Lord, for revisiting us today. I mentioned last time we spoke that it seemed better to reserve a time after Christmas to discuss some of the details of what have come to be called “the lost years,” and also other matters relating to your ministry on Earth. Our purpose is not to cause any heartache to your followers, but simply to iron out some of the mysteries that surround your life. Is that satisfactory to you?

Jesus: Yes, it is. Although I would not say that there are any lost years! But I welcome you, Steve, and I welcome all of you. And you may call me Jesus, or you may call me Yeshua. But I am pleased to be here with you this evening.

S: Thank you. Gee, I don’t think I can call you anything but Lord, Lord! It just comes naturally, and I’d feel a little strange. I’ll try.

Before going on to the lost years, Linda herself has asked me to ask you a question, and so maybe I can ask that first. And that is: what can we do for people who are in despair? And by despair, she means, “Is Ascension really going to happen? Am I going to make it?” She reports that a lot of people are feeling somewhat despondent. Can you discuss that with us first, please?

J: Yes, I would be happy to. For we have all known a dark night of the soul. We have all known a time when there does not seem to be any light that creeps in, either with the dawn or under the doorway, when we forget the light that is our inner light and our inner guidance.

And what is transpiring for many during this time is not simply the concern, or the fear, or the despair, or the lack of hope around the Ascension or around the events of 2012, but also around the issue of their lives, around the meaning of their mission, the fulfillment of their mission, the feeling of love in their hearts, or the lack thereof.

Our Mother [the Divine Mother or Holy Spirit] has said often, where there is no hope there is no life. And I know that many of my followers had fallen into this place, now and then, and even I at times had had feelings of despondency, though I never had the occasion to live without hope.

But this situation is often a residue of what has gone on in the individual’s life, or in the collective’s lives, or even in earlier lifetimes, that is coming to the surface now for complete elimination, for cleansing, for letting go, for whatever you choose to call it. (1)

Now, that does not always help, to know that it is something that you are letting go of once and for all. The ironic thing about what many feel is the lack of hope is not because there is no solution, from above or below or from the inner being, from the soul or from the higher self; often what the yearning is is for contact, for communion, for union, for unity, community, for reaffirmation from the human race, from friends, from neighbors, from family – sometimes even from strangers.

It is the time we have talked about, for action and for standing up and for sharing what you know to be truth, and the truth of your own individual journey. But part of that action is also reaching out to those fellow light-holders, light-bearers, and light-workers who are finding themselves in this predicament, in this place where they do not know how loved and valued they are.

They have forgotten their own inner worth and their own sense of hope. The thing that I recommend, the action that I recommend and ask of you, is to reach out to those, not simply by sending healing, or by sending light and love, but in a physical way as well, by a chat on the phone, by a conversation – in person or [by] other media.

Let the individual know that you are there holding the hope for them until they are ready to resume their place in this unfoldment. It is to reassure one another that you are not alone in this journey, that it is a journey of the collective. And of course that goes not only for light-holders, [but] for those that you think do not understand that they have not understood what this unfoldment, or what 2012 or Ascension or any of this business that we are so keen to talk about, is about, for these are people who also need greater hope.

So have the conversation with them, too. And if they do not understand, it does not always matter. What matters is that you’re communicating caring and love. That is the only thing that is necessary. So this is what I ask for you to do. Extend yourself, and in extending yourself you are giving the gift of hope, you are reinstalling it within your friend’s heart, whether they are family or stranger.

S: Thank you, Lord. Perhaps a subsidiary question to this is that some people – I think of Matthew Ward, particularly – have said that your followers who fall into the category of Fundamentalists will have a great deal of trouble accepting the Ascension, and in fact they may choose not to Ascend, and may choose to leave. Can you speak any words of encouragement to them at this moment around Ascension?

J: Of course I can. And there are many, many who fall into this group. And perhaps it is also with what many have come to understand as Ascension. It is the word, it is the phraseology. And we have run into this for centuries! But it is the word that frightens them, first and foremost. But it is also an issue of self-worth and self-love. But they think in terms of my Ascension, for example, but there have been other examples as well, as you well know.

But we are not talking about taking your corporal or even astral or spiritual body and ascending into the oneness of all, into what they would think of as heaven. We are talking about ascending in a trans-dimensional way. We are talking about movement, and for this reason we have often had this channel use the word shift. But the key to Ascension is not fully, intellectually, just understanding it, or not understanding it. It is the holding of love in your heart. This has always been the case. And it has always been the message.

The Fundamentalists have carved a path – we do not say this in judgment – but rather than carving it with flowers, grass, and moveable sand, they have carved it out of stone, out of rock. And they believe that this foundation is firm. And that is reassuring to them. And of course we always want people to feel reassured, but the difficulty with that is that too much of these beliefs that are human-made, not divinely directed, have become entrenched, and that they think that their path is proscribed. They do not think that there is any flexibility.

They think in terms of reward and punishment. And of course that is of duality. It is of polarity, and at its worst it is of judgment. It is very sad, and sad in the fullest sense of the word, as in disheartening, but also as in pathetic, to feel that we would judge in that way, that some are welcome and some are not, that some are lost and some are found. That there is only a chosen few. That is simply not the case.

Now, when the time comes they will see this. They will be given their own signs and their own revelations, and this will give them the opportunity to move, or not. Many will come. Many will choose at the last moment to ascend and to accompany the rest of the collective in this new adventure. And for them to let go of this yoke that has really been self imposed will be so freeing. And then they will truly know what it is to bask in my love, to walk with us, to share with us – for that has always been the plan. We do not save some and condemn others. That is not the way of love.

Graham Dewyea: Hi, Jesus, this is Graham. We seem to have dropped Steve’s call, so I’m going to monitor the panel here so that when he comes in I can bring him back on. And I invite you, if you’d like, to use this time to speak further of Ascension or any other comments you’d like to share. Thank you.

J: I would like to begin with what Steve has asked me about my early years, about my life as a child and as a young man, as an adult coming of age. And I want to begin by telling you, I had an incredible life as Jesus, as Yeshua. I had an incredible family. Yes, both above and below. And that is where so much confusion often occurs.

But I and my human family, and my beloved mother and my beloved father, and yes, my siblings, my extended family, they were so supportive since the day I was conceived. And yes, of course, it was known, although it was kept in many ways quiet – although it could not be kept that quiet, because I was quite adventurous. They supported my journey, and of course that is why I had been sent to this family in such exceptional circumstances.

At a very early age, around five, five and a half, I was completely, can I say, reunited or filled with the Holy Spirit. That full reconnection to Father-Mother One, what you think of as God or Source, what I think of as Mother-Holy Spirit, took place.(2)

And so that awareness and that connection, that knowing, and what you would think of as information, was available to me from the start, or from the very early age.

But I was also of a very educated family, and one that placed great value – not just my mother or father, but my entire family – who placed value on the learning, and what you can think of as the sacred learnings, of both Hebrew, certainly of the Laws, the Laws as a Jew, but also the universal laws. So I learned not just the languages of Greek, and I travelled.

There is – and I have spoken in other situations about my learning to assist my father in this, what you would now think of as construction business. He was far more than just a humble carpenter, although that is the job that he took or assumed when we first returned to Nazareth. But through these family ties I was brought to study and exposed to many scholars and many different points of view, including the Eastern philosophies.

My cousin, my beloved cousin John, who I loved as a brother, with him we studied and became familiar with the Essenes. So the exposure was brought. The difficulty was very often that I would correct my teachers, or I would challenge my teachers, not in a way that was offensive, for I was a very polite boy, and even a more polite young man. I did not ever wish really to draw great attention to myself. But what I could not understand sometimes was when there was a point of law or a point of philosophy that I knew was either incomplete or not rounded or even incorrect, I would ask about it.

And it was wonderful.  This is the gift of being trained in a true scholastic environment: it is not just about obeying or obedience or adherence – and that is also the message that I would give to our fundamentalist friends, or any -ism – it is about exploring.

But it is about exploring from the inner knowing, and from your connection, because there is no being – no being – on Earth that is not touched or gifted with the wisdom, the energy, of the Holy Spirit. It is available, and it is truly gifted to many. Yes, you can turn away and say no, but that has never been understood – not while I was in human form, and not really now. It always comes back to this situation of self-loathing or self-worth, the lack of self-worth.

Now, you would say to me, Yeshua, if you were filled with the connection and the knowing, why was it necessary for you to be prepared in this way? My parents – particularly my mother, a very astute woman – it wasn’t just the value of education and culture. She knew that I would move in and amongst the people, in and amongst the cultures, and that in order to have credibility in my teachings, as I entered my more public life, that there would need to be a full understanding and an acculturation into these belief systems, even those that I did not completely agree with.

And that would be necessary in order for me to be accepted amongst my people. Because, although my message was universal, and always has been, it was to the people of the Jewish faith, those who had been promised and who were looking for a savior, a messiah, for a leader to take them out of this bondage, to make them what they thought would be leaders of the world.

But of course it is not of this world that I lead you. Yes, I teach you, I guide you, I help you. I help you every single day, whether you know it or not. I help you to maneuver and to deal with this world that you live in. Whether you feel that you are on top of the world, on top of your journey, on top of your game, or whether you are lost, I am still with you, and I am guiding you. And I have many voices, and even many faces, but they have always been the same message.

So, now, Steve?

S: Yes, I’m back –

J: We welcome you back.

S: Thank you. Graham, could you just orient me to where we are in the questions?

G: Absolutely. Welcome back.

S: Well, thank you.

G: Jesus was just talking about his upbringing and childhood, and just continued on your original question around Ascension.

S: Okay. So have we asked you, Lord, about the manner of your birth yet?

J: What do you want to know about my birth?

S: I take it we haven’t asked that question. Well, the problem is that some people say you weren’t born in a manger or a stable, that you in fact didn’t come from parents of a humble and poor background – humble obviously – but that instead you came from a well established family. They weren’t poor by any means. Which version is correct, Lord?

J: We have known good times and bad. I was of a very well-established family. Let me make that very clear. And the establishment of our family was in the lineage, and yes, position, not just in terms of wealth, but in terms of heritage, of respect. Were my parents humble? Absolutely. For they could not have brought me forward if they were not. But as I was saying, in my family there was a tradition, and a deep respect, and yes, in your society you would say an expectation, of what an upbringing would be, and what that would be entailing in terms of training and scholarship, education, exposure, acculturation.

Now, when I was born, when I took form, let us put it that way, upon this beautiful Earth, it was during a time of mass migration and confusion. And it wasn’t what you would think of, has been romanticized as, a stable, a manger, but it was in a very humble situation, where there was a back room, yes, where animals were close by.

But that was not unusual, you know. So yes, in that situation, because of the requirements of government, I was born as [laughs] somewhat of a displaced person. But my family, my family was what you would think of as a very well-placed lineage.

S: Well, that’s very helpful. When your parents left Israel, where exactly did they go? What part of Egypt – I think it was Egypt – did they go to?

J: We went to a small village just outside what you would think of now as Alexandria. It was very humble. But then again there was family. So you have to understand, in our society, as in many of yours, the family took care of us. So it was not that I was in any way, or that our family was in any way, deprived. That simply was not the case at all. We had comfort.

My mother tended, in the beginning – well, always, really, but – to be what I would say would be very protective. She did not want to have me exposed to too many people in a strange and foreign place. She often feared that, should people know of the promise of my being, that it would place me in harm’s way. And so I was kept very close in the early, early years, not that I would wish to go anywhere anyway. But she kept me very close by her side within the family compound.

S: All right. And the Aquarian Gospel describes you as coming into contact with the Egyptian hierophants. Did you in fact take a course of study with the Egyptian priests while in Egypt?

J: Yes, I did. As I have said –

S: Like the description?

J: Yes, we have. But understand what I say, because I came into my knowing, into the fulfillment with the Holy Spirit, at a very, very early age. And so yes, I studied with the high priests and was exposed to their belief systems. The Egyptians, later the Greeks, the Romans to some extent, although that did not really have great impact at all, but the early times, and the understandings of the workings of the universe, the role of a priest in society was embedded from those early teachings in Egypt.

But it was – also there were studies with the Hebrew scholars as well. I learned Greek. I studied many cultures, and especially from the East, from that tradition, which was common, not unusual, in my family. But it did not – it did not cause contradiction, because there is no contradiction. Yes, you may ask your question.

S: Thank you. When you say that, “I studied with Greeks and Romans,” are you saying that you studied with them in Alexandria, or did you go on the same philosopher’s circuit that Apollonius of Tyana did, namely to Delphi, Egypt, Persia, India?

J: Yes, I travelled a great deal in my early years, as a young man – as an adolescent, and as a young man. My family felt that it was very important. My mother in particular knew the universality of the messages that I would come to share with many, and she wanted me to be fully prepared. Now, she did not always understand when I would challenge or debate, shall we say, some of my teachers.

But they always understood. They welcomed the conversations and different insights. There was no restriction. You see, this is what has been misunderstood. There has always been a feeling that the belief system was very constricted, and it was not. So yes, I was exposed and studied and went on many pilgrimages.

S: Apollonius of Tyana describes a circuit that many people followed almost as if it was well known in those days –

J: [ ? ] sequential.

S: Sequential. Did you actually set out to follow that same circuit?

J: Not step by step by step. But through exposure, yes, we did. And when I say we, I mostly mean that I was always accompanied by someone from my family.

S: All right. I know that we have many listeners in India, and I’m sure they would be most interested to know where you went in India at this time, whom you studied with, what lineage they were or what path they followed.

J: What you would think of is it would be the path of Hinduism. It is the path of the Masters, of the Teachers, of the Yogis.

S: Would you have made a distinction between, say, Vedanta [the non-dual path] or karma yogis [the path of service], or bhakti [the path of devotion], at that time?

J: At that time, no, we did not. There was very little. It was more preferential, but it would be more bhakti [devotion than anything, if you were to look at it in terms of today’s. But it was also very rigorous in terms of also physical discipline and training as well.

S: And where did you go in India to study?

J: Everywhere.

S: I passed a marker outside of Pondicherry that celebrated the passage of Matsya, the fish prophet. Was that you?

J: Yes. Yes, it was.

S: That’s very, very interesting. What else should we know about these years before you started your ministry? What else would be relevant to us appreciating you as you began your ministry? What was important?

J: What I would want people to know – yes, in India, in Africa, in the Himalayas, certainly, in what you think of now as the Middle East – was the universality. My family obviously was in the Judaic tradition. But the level of sophistication – and yes, because I had the privilege to travel, to study, but also to work along side many fellow travelers, I was not alone. And I never thought of myself as the only voice, or the only teacher, or the only way. I was one. I was one where the Word, because of the Holy Spirit, was in flesh. But I certainly was not the only one.

So there are those who have said oh, yes, Jesus, another prophet. And then there are those who take great offense at that. I do not. Because each tradition that I have studied, whether it was in India or Egypt or in the temples, or at home, whether it was with the philosophers or the rabbis, they all were really telling me and teaching me the same thing.

And it was ironic in many ways. Yes, I understood – and it was rigorous! Do not think that I got to go on tour and live in the lap of luxury, because there was none of that. Yes, I was attended to. But it was far from luxurious. And there were times when my family depended on the extended family, always, for support. But it was considered important – because everyone knew that I was being prepared so that I know all paths.

So this is not meant in any way to say that what I taught came from here or there. And, yes, I have traveled, even further than most think. As I travel these days, amongst your star brothers and sisters. But it is the universality, it is the community spirit that I would wish to emphasize, it is the community of love.

And that was the message I received. I received it from the high priests. I received it from the yogis, I received it from the teachers and the masters, from the rabbis. They all had valuable teachings, and they taught me also not to be arrogant or conceited, to bring humility to my work, and to know that I was simply honored to be in service, as are each of you.

S: Well, you have mentioned the Holy Spirit in flesh, so I’m going to turn at this moment to another line of questioning. I’m quite sure we’re not going to get finished with our discussion today, so if you’d be so kind as to return next week, we can continue and I won’t try and rush through this, if that’s satisfactory to you.

J: Yes, and why do you think I have turned it in this direction, dear friend?

S: Very good. Thank you. I know I can rely on you to guide me. You mentioned the Holy Spirit in flesh, and that raises questions about your ministry. Do you consider that the word “avatar” applies to you and your ministry? Sri Ramakrishna says….

J: Avatar is not a word that I particularly cherish. (3) Let me put it that way.

S: All right.

J: There are those who wish to label me as an avatar. And I would accept that label, but I would not choose it. I would choose the label, or the description, of teacher.

S: Okay. Well, maybe we could creep up on it then from another route. Sri Ramakrishna considers you an avatar and publicly declared that. Can we talk about who was here then, please? You were here in bodily form. But –

J: Yes.

S: – Sananda was also here overlighting you, was he not?

J: Yes.

S: So that would be a second layer to your ministry, so to speak, the overlighting.

J: That is correct.

S: And then in addition to that, the Holy Spirit descended into your form. Is that correct?

J: That is correct.

S: And did that, by the way, happen when you were being baptized in the River Jordan?

J: No, it happened at a very early age, actually. The baptism was a symbolic refilling, if you want to put it that way. But, no, in order for me to go forward in my journey on Earth, there was an infilling of the Holy Spirit at a very early age, of about five, five and a half. And then it was renewed, or – symbolically renewed – so that the people would know that this was available to everybody.

S: All right. Well, if you were the human form that was overlit by a spirit as exalted as Sananda, and the Holy Spirit descended in you, that I would call an “avatar.” Would you disagree?

J: [Laughs] I do not disagree. I simply say to you that it is a designation that I am not so eager to claim.

S: Okay.

J: Yes, I will accept it. You know there was so much controversy, when I did walk the Earth, not only about my family’s position but about the politics of the “King of the Jews” and wanting leadership and political intrigue. So I am always very hesitant to give myself or to accept designations.

S: I accept that.

J: And I will tell you why. Because you, or your listeners, will then say, “Oh, well, he had this overlighting, he had this infilling, and that makes him different or separate,” and it does not. If anything, it allows me to be closer to you.

S: All right, I accept that, Lord.

J: All right. So I have made my point, then! [laugh]

S: Yes, Lord.

J: And I want you to accept, each one of you, I have often teased this channel that you are M-in-Ms, masters-in-the-making, but now we will call you A-in-Ms, avatars-in-the-making.

S: [chuckles] All right. I had another question for you, but it’s entirely slipped my mind.  Were you in fact married to Mary Magdalene?

J: Let me put it this way. Yes.

S: All right. Formally married? I don’t know the customs of that age, so forgive me if I’ve asked an indelicate question, but married according to –

J: She was not my mistress, dear heart, so yes, we were formally married. She was my beloved wife. She was my sacred other. She was my divine other. She was my partner, that made my walk on Earth full with joy – and more human. It was anticipated, you know, that a young man would marry. But it was not simply because of custom, or because I wished to be part of or separate, it was because I wished to be in sacred union with my Magdalena.

The love that we have shared was deep and profound. And there have been many who have naysayed and made up many myths and stories about her. But she was my support as I was hers. She was my sounding board. It was a very difficult.

When we came together, she knew. We discussed very fully what the future held and the road that we would walk together. She was one who always prepared ritual, and helped to put ceremony, often, around our situations.

Now, as you well know from the Egyptians, and from the travels to India, I had learned about ritual and ceremony and the importance of it. But in many ways, even from the family that I was raised in, I was a very relaxed and casual person. I wanted to move amongst the people.

And often she would say, yes, we will move amongst the people, and we will have the joining and the teaching, but let us put some ceremony and ritual, for she had also been trained in this way. So yes, not only was I married, we had a family as well.

S:  Why would the gospel writers neglect to mention that?

J: It was not considered particularly important, but it was also considered protection and reverence for her.

S: All right. Okay. So you actually had children, did you not?

J: Yes.

S: How many?

J: We had two children.

S: Two children? A girl and a boy, or – ?

J: Yes, we had a son. A son and a daughter.

S: Could you tell us about –

J: Our son died very young. It was very hard. But our daughter lived.

S: And is she the Holy Grail?

J: That is correct. Our Sarah is the Holy Grail.

S: Sarah. Where did she go after you left the Earth? France?

J: She went to the south of France.

S: And was she that which was revered by the Cathars?

J: That is correct.

S: Oh, it takes my breath way to hear you say this, Lord. I actually notice that the time is getting close to our ending, but again, I’m just going to continue next week, if you’ll permit me. So perhaps this could be a wind-up question. Did you teach reincarnation during your ministry?

J: Yes, I did. Now, is that not a radical statement for many to hear?

S: Yes.

J: But yes, I did. Because this was a very common understanding – not always agreed to by the rabbis, but in many of the other cultures. The continuity of life, the continuity of the flame of the soul. How could I teach that you did not die and not talk about reincarnation? How could I raise the dead and not talk about reincarnation?

S: Yes.

J: So yes.

S: But you also – you also say – you also speak about enlightenment conferring immortality. But I take it that by that you mean that someone would not need to be born again, not need to leave the temple and go more out. Is that correct?

J: That is correct.

S: All right. So we are immortal?

J: Yes, you are immortal. Every single one of you. And we will talk about karma and the requirements for reincarnation when next we meet, because this has need to be clarified.

S: And I’m looking forward to that immensely, Lord. Thank you for visiting with us tonight.

J: It is my pleasure. And I bless you, and I thank you. And I give you my love.

S: Thank you. Farewell.

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