From the Contact in the Desert UFO Conference 2013: On Topic chats with James Gilliland, an author, teacher, ufologist, spiritual counselor, energetic healer, and the founder of the Enlightened Contact with Extraterrestrial Intelligence (ECETI) organization.
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